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關於韓粉的缺點，社會輿論已經檢討得滿坑滿谷，現在該是我們來檢討英粉的時候了。

有人說韓國瑜成也韓粉敗也韓粉，的確，過去半年韓粉已經成功被塑造成一個極其負面的形象。特別在我們這個厭老的社會，加上年輕人為主的網路文化，「強勢老人」往往不被喜歡。而這個不被喜歡，背後也不是零道理，這社會上確實存在著許多倚老賣老，不愛講理的老人。

但反過來說，以年輕人為主的英粉，真比較高尚？從姜冠宇合成皰疹嬰兒照這件事當中，我們可以一窺英粉的真面目。

英粉的第一個特色，是「政治來了就忘記人性」。這位姜先生能當到醫師，頭腦自然聰明，但卻是個滿腦政治（臉書多篇罵藍挺英反中內容）卻不懂人情世故的傢伙。他竟然把韓抱女嬰的照片，與感染皰疹的嬰兒照片並列合成在一起。Come On !這是別人家一個活生生的小孩耶！天下父母心，誰喜歡看自己健康的小孩被與生病的小孩放在一起？這簡直就像是一種詛咒暗示。

一個會做人的人，會知道在公眾與私人場合，看到可愛的小孩大家普遍會很開心，父母常常也會願意把小孩給自己有正面觀感的人抱，大家一起分享喜悅，蔡英文總統不也抱過小孩？顯見這是很正常的社會行為。無論你喜歡或不喜歡韓，他這一刻只是做一個老百姓也會做的社會行為。只為了打韓，就可以把別人家健康小孩做生病的連結，還配上可怕的病照，請問人性在哪裡？

更可惡的是，在家長表態要告人以後，還不肯道歉，只刪照片，堅稱自己是衛教。奇怪，你真這麼光明正大，你刪照片幹嘛？對人造成了傷害卻不道歉，只能說姜醫師印證了一句俗語：「會讀書不一定會做人」。

英粉的第二個特色，是「熱愛假消息」。別看英粉成日罵韓粉腦殘，愛看假新聞，英粉對假消息其實也非常情有獨鐘，無論是製造還是傳播，都非常有興趣。當然，前提是攻擊到「對的人」。

舉例來說，在姜醫師事件中，那個以「擁有40名小編」聞名的英派粉絲團「只是堵藍」，就鬧了個烏龍。有網友自稱是女娃媽媽的朋友，大罵特罵了韓一番，說女娃媽媽非常憤怒，只是堵藍就極為開心的直接轉載該消息，還叫女嬰父母記得帶小孩去收驚，結果呢？女嬰的爸爸說「有所誤解」，而依據活動主辦人黃桂蘭與女嬰媽媽對話後轉述的內容，媽媽說「孩子能給韓國瑜抱，她非常開心。」。也就是說實情與這位網友的爆料相去甚遠！

只是，堵藍散播非事實資訊，按照民進黨的標準，應該要以社會秩序維護法「散佈謠言」的罪名移送才對，怎麼沒有呢？當然，我們知道這個政府絕對不會辦「自己人」的，而英粉也完全不care。在韓營宣布提告之後，「只是堵藍」仍高調反嗆韓陣營，下面還是一堆人叫好。不只如此，「只是堵藍」還繼續編造內容，說韓國瑜說「高雄人是民主的遮羞布」，韓指的是罷韓遊行，罷韓遊行可以代表全體高雄人？

偷換概念，把韓沒說過的話塞入他嘴巴，然後還一堆英粉留言叫好。以小見大，這正是英粉熱愛假消息的寫照。黑貓白貓能抓老鼠的都是好貓，真消息假消息，能打擊國民黨的就是值得散播轉傳的好消息。

知識就是力量，但這力量如果被用做傷害無辜的工具，知識就搖身一變成為毀滅社會的力量。韓粉或許粗鄙，但這也表示他們縱使幹壞事，也比較好拆穿。但許多英粉卻是「拿刀叉吃人肉」，充分利用自己的文化資本霸凌人，這行為更不可取，對社會潛在傷害更大！

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新黨不分區立委提名人邱毅爆料「民進黨二代網軍」內部資料。( 圖 / 記者陳弘志翻攝 )

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國民黨兩名義務副祕書長蔡正元、張顯耀、新黨不分區立委提名人邱毅所組成的「耀正毅 (要正義)」連線26日揭露「民進黨二代網軍」內部資料，指出二代網軍有三大攻擊對象，其中韓國瑜名列第二位；也指出蔡英文總統的表姊林美珠的兒子吳孝銓也在網軍要角的名單內。

 

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新黨不分區立委提名人邱毅。( 圖 / 記者陳弘志攝 )

 

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新黨不分區立委提名人邱毅爆料「民進黨二代網軍」內部資料。( 圖 / 記者陳弘志翻攝 )

 

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新黨不分區立委提名人邱毅爆料「民進黨二代網軍」內部資料。( 圖 / 記者陳弘志翻攝 )

 

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新黨不分區立委提名人邱毅爆料「民進黨二代網軍」內部資料。( 圖 / 記者陳弘志翻攝 )

 

邱毅今天揭露一份民進黨內部資料，名為「網路宣傳2.0計畫」，其中二代網軍的指揮樞紐代號為「2018左訓中心」，任務包括「鄉民風向球」，專責介入臉書、ptt發文，另外還設有「快打小組」機動攻擊，至於「綠色品保小組」專門負責捍衛與讚揚民進黨執政的地方縣市政績。

 

邱毅指出，民進黨「二代網軍」除設有行銷公司外，還包括民調公司、公關公司，至於甯祥豪的「深口袋行銷公司」，是民進黨二代網軍的重要執行者，除曾向蔡英文總統報告過一份名為「網路媒體新行銷計畫」近百頁報告外，每半個月還須向民進黨中央提交成果數據。網軍頭子除了甯祥豪之外，還有蔡英文總統的表姊林美珠的兒子吳孝銓，也列名其中。

 

邱毅指出，民進黨二代網軍的主要攻擊目標有三個，第一是國民黨，第二是韓國瑜，第三是吳敦義；另外，二代網軍還新增「攻擊媒體與記者」任務，設置「媒體別鬼扯」粉專，專門對付「不接受綠色收編、不聽話配合報導」的記者和媒體，企圖把他們抹紅，以讓他們在媒體界喪失公信力難以生存；此外還有「假韓粉」藏匿在韓粉組織內，破壞韓粉向心力；另外網軍也有「打馬悍將」任務分派，但最近方向已經從「打馬英九」轉為「打韓國瑜」。邱毅也指出，二代網軍有個「天天愚人節」分項，專門負責嘲弄與攻擊他。

 

張顯耀指出，民進黨二代網軍的經費來源來自民進黨輿情部，但這些錢應該來自政黨補助款，等於用納稅人的錢來養網軍。

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雖然在國民黨總統候選人韓國瑜喊出「蓋牌」後，民調只能參考用，但無論是蓋牌前或蓋牌後，仍然可看出尋求連任的總統蔡英文佔上風。對此，日本前駐台代表沼田幹夫評估韓蔡雙方真實差距約在5%以內，擔任蔡英文桃園市競選總部副總幹事的綠黨桃園市議員王浩宇也提出3點，坦言無法完全排除韓國瑜當選可能性。

 

王浩宇日前在臉書發文表示，沼田幹夫認為韓蔡差距在5%以內，這種說法是有所根據的。王浩宇指出，目前韓粉表態率偏低，根據長期民調經驗，趨於弱勢的陣營通常表態率較低，像是2014年桃園市長選舉鄭文燦選前民調落後20%，實際投票卻爆冷逆轉勝；而韓因近期多起爭議，現階段藍營支持者表態率較低、拒訪率較高，因此韓民調明顯被低估，相對蔡則是明顯被高估，實際上的差距約在10%左右。

 

另外，王浩宇認為，年輕人投票意願低於韓粉，蔡英文最優勢的年輕族群投票率通常低於中老年人20到30%，現在高鐵、台鐵訂票情況並不踴躍，預期年輕人投票率不會太高；而不同於韓國瑜有鋼鐵韓粉，蔡英文部分支持者來自民眾黨、時代力量等第三勢力成為變數，這些選民投票意願較低，也可能會因為柯文哲、黃國昌在選前訴求「藍綠一樣爛」或追打弊案而投下廢票或不投票，甚至轉支持韓國瑜。

 

在上述3種情況之下，王浩宇分析，雖然自己認為蔡英文勝出機率較大，在綜合現階段所有資料後，蔡並非百分之百勝選，很難排除韓國瑜當選總統的可能性。

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選戰倒數，民進黨斷言，「不對稱賭盤」將是新變數。台北市長柯文哲則預言，蔡英文總統會贏，但贏得不多，因投蔡的人都是「心不甘情不願」；投給國民黨總統候選人韓國瑜都是堅定的「鋼鐵韓粉」。他也說，台灣民眾黨政黨票若沒超過百分之五，就真要打包了。

至於是否投給蔡英文？柯文哲說，「我媽媽可能比較偏向蔡英文，但陳佩琪很討厭蔡英文」，他會開一個家庭會議好好解決這個問題。

民進黨行動中常會昨到新竹舉行，民進黨秘書長羅文嘉說，有些選舉變數超過經驗範圍，不對稱賭盤就是新變數；新聞報導破獲中國有史以來最大的資金，足以顯示這次選舉賭盤比以往都要猖獗。不對稱賭盤就是賠率不合理，賭十萬可以獲得一百萬，比買票更有驅動力。

羅文嘉也說，韓國瑜要支持者民調說謊，不是韓傻，是為了掩護不對稱賭盤。民進黨也擬定三項因應策略，樂觀選區設法補強、艱困區組織及進攻力道重新檢驗，激戰區要有更精確的作戰方式。

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柯文哲跟夫人陳佩琪連袂上直播專訪，被問到票投蔡總統，跟柯媽媽意見不同，陳佩琪說，自己不會因為柯文哲沒聽自己的話就讓柯文哲沒飯吃，但她也在臉書強調，絕不會投票給蔡總統，因為自己不至於黑心到會把票投給把柯文哲往死裡打的網軍頭子。

 

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台北市長夫人陳佩琪：「(柯媽說柯市長是綠底的，一定會支持蔡英文總統)，你笑這麼開心幹什麼。」

 

夾在兩個女人之間，柯文哲左右為難，為了蔡總統，柯家到底有沒有掀起婆媳戰爭，陳佩琪親上火線說明白。

 

台北市長夫人陳佩琪vs.柯文哲：「我們會參酌雙方的意見，做出最恰當的判斷，應該做自己就好了，不管他做什麼決定我都還是會，生病的時候我還是會配藥會給他吃，每天早上還是會準備早餐，不會因為他跟我的意見不合，就會，就沒有早餐吃，不會用這種暗黑的手段攻擊我的先生。」

 

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暗酸蔡總統透過網軍暗黑攻擊，陳佩琪說得委婉，因為心裡的憤怒在直播前已經透過文字在臉書抒發。

 

陳佩琪把矛頭指向蔡總統，說跟柯文哲結婚30年，或許不似過往甜蜜，卻也不至於黑心做出殺夫的行為，把自己手中的選票投給把先生往死裡打的網軍頭子，更說台灣人很可憐，走了一個，卻來個手段更狠、心更毒辣的人，並直指蔡總統無能，管不住黨的暗黑手段。

 

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台北市長夫人陳佩琪：「以攻擊人為目的，或說用一些假新聞去攻擊別的這些網軍，我覺得那些網軍才是真的需要被抓出來的。」

 

台北市長柯文哲：「她寫殺夫嗎，沒那麼嚴重吧，其實她們(婆媳)兩個只是很有意見，關係都還很好。」

 

陳佩琪護夫心切，屢屢出手抨擊蔡總統，意外扯出婆媳不同調，也讓柯文哲兩邊不是人。

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會議記錄中，蔡英文評林佳龍(見圖)「太過自信」、「惹怒地方派系」、「用人失當」，李艷秋直呼蔡英文大玩雙面手法，一邊卸責一邊吃林佳龍豆腐 (圖／本報資料照)

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字級設定：小中大特

去年初，包括李遠哲在內的4名獨派大老聯合登報逼宮總統蔡英文，引發軒然大波，當時傳出李遠哲不滿蔡英文任用葉俊榮、而不是管碧玲當教育部長，與蔡英文起口角。資深媒體人李艷秋昨(12.31)也爆出當時會議記錄，今天更加碼爆出餘下的對話。會談中，李遠哲要蔡英文負全責，更提出特赦陳水扁的要求。

李艷秋今天在臉書貼出了會議記錄續篇。透過會議紀錄可以看到，李遠哲認為政府官員出錯，任用他們的蔡英文應該負責，更要求蔡英文放棄連任，民進黨才有機會。

蔡英文則回應，自己若放手，整個黨會分崩離析，而她親自推動的只有年金改革，其他如一例一休、同婚與東奧正名都是立院推出。蔡英文說，這些改革讓民進黨遭受各路圍剿，足足少了400萬票，她有何辦法，就算全面執政，但這個總統是最難當的。

蔡英文在會議中還談到林佳龍，她認為林佳龍太過自信，沒把盧秀燕放眼裡，加上無法擺平紅黑兩派、用人失當，導致政績全無，因而敗選。蔡更表示柯文哲能夠當選，是因為最後關頭民進黨出手幫忙，否則柯文哲早就敗選，國民黨就大獲全勝了。

會談中，李遠哲進一步要求蔡英文運用總統權力特赦陳水扁，但蔡英文並未回覆。

李艷秋痛批，蔡英文把所有責任推得一乾二淨，流失的選票都是立院推動的同婚與一例一休害的，自己的年金改革沒丟半張票，但這次反滲透法不就是蔡英文下令要強渡關山嗎？

李艷秋大酸蔡英文，說林佳龍沒政績又得罪地方派系，活該會輸，跟她無關，卻又在今年8月要台中人對林佳龍道歉，要選民下次不要選錯人，李艷秋直說「好厲害的雙面手法，卸責之外還狂吃林佳龍豆腐，給他個交通部長讓他乖乖臣服」。

對於蔡英文說民進黨最後關頭幫助柯文哲，李艷秋更不解，直問「怎麼幫的？是錢糧支持？還是選務作弊？」、「竟然在戰場前線拋棄同志，這是什麼黨？」

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總統蔡英文周日在台南舉辦造勢大會，宣稱湧進15萬人力挺，但資深媒體人黃暐瀚昨晚PO出當時現場影片，只見空拍畫面中蔡還在台上開講，台下民眾卻是稀稀落落，尤其後半部更是僅殘留一大片空蕩蕩的紅色塑膠椅，與台上眾人激情吶喊的景象形成強烈對比，讓黃大呼驚訝指出「這是台南，是賴清德的本命區、是綠到出汁的地方，且星期天下午是晴天，地上不泥濘、天上也沒下雨」，直言這就是與國民黨總統候選人韓國瑜的差別！

黃暐瀚PO出蔡英文周日在台南造勢大會現場影片，只見空拍畫面中蔡還在台上開講，台下民眾卻是稀稀落落，尤其後半部更是僅殘留一大片空蕩蕩的紅色塑膠椅，與台上眾人激情吶喊的景象形成強烈對比！（圖片翻攝黃暐瀚FB）

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黃暐瀚在臉書以〈台南晴天VS.台中雨天〉為題發文寫道「在看到制高點影片前，我真的以為蔡總統的台南造勢大成功，15萬人力挺蔡賴配跟6位立委候選人，我真的這樣以為（因為所有媒體都是這樣報導的），但在看完網友從制高點往下拍的3段影片後，我驚訝了！第1、這是台南，是賴清德的本命區、是沒有1席國民黨立委的綠到出汁的地方；第2、這是蔡總統這次選舉在台南最大的造勢大會；第3、這是星期天下午、晴天，地上不泥濘、天上也沒下雨，結果居然蔡總統人都還在台上，台下已幾乎走光光（人多的時候也是多的，但離開的狀況確實令人驚訝）」！

黃暐瀚指出「對比去年12/29、台中的韓國瑜造勢大會，雨從半夜開始下，地上全泥濘，根本爛泥巴，支持者得從下午淋雨到晚上9點半才能等到韓國瑜，尤其第2天就是星期一，大家都還得上班，但卻沒有人在韓演講時整隊離開，這就是差別」！

另一方面，對於韓國瑜日前造勢曾表示「我們的國運也不昌隆，到底是怎麼回事？台灣到底是得罪誰了？台灣是中邪了嗎？台灣是生病了嗎」？但蔡英文卻在臉書批韓用「台灣中邪了、國運不昌隆」消費將士犧牲，黃暐瀚直言蔡用肯定句，「貼文完全是錯的」！

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